Hello Bro !
I am interested in your experience with the above mentioned peptides (TB-500, BPC-157)
About GHK-cu peptide, I didn't quite understand you.
GHK-cu - should it be combined with TB-500+BPC-157 or separately solo, after complete shoulder recovery ???
I am also currently dealing with a serious shoulder cuff tear injury.
I am 45 years old. I am a bodybuilder.
Doctors advise only surgery. After my discussions with several surgeons,
I've come to the conclusion that in European medicine, surgery is a business.
How old are you and what sport do you play?
How serious was your shoulder cuff injury ?
Did you not train the injured shoulder at all for 15 years or did you train periodically, through pain ?
Do you now after injecting peptides (you wrote that after 6 months) have restrictions in certain exercises or has your shoulder fully recovered?
I would really appreciate the answers.
It can save me from surgery.
Regards Alex.
I am sorry for the late reply. I had a torn rotator cuff injury when I was around 18 to 20 years old. For me, my arm would just randomly fall out of socket, and for days after it would be so painful and so easy to repeat the fall out.. omg man I feel you brother.
But I did fix it. I saw both US and European doctors, including sports doctors in Germany than treat their Olympic teams.
The US doctors almost always just default to surgery. Its like it is programmed into their studies. The European doctors were much more detailed. They wanted to measure where it tore, my natural ability to heal or percentage chance of healing vs requiring surgery. It was much more satisfying to deal with European doctors vs American / US doctors.
I started where if I lifted my left arm above my head, it would fall out. Completely dislocated and I would have to fall into a wall in a certain way to relocate it. Now, I am doing body weight pull ups. Something I would have bet large sums of money I would never ever do for the rest of my life.
Here is my brutal honest answer.
I did BPC and TB at 50% higher dosages than recommended for a litter over a year. I focused on rotator cuff exercises and basic deltoid exercises (all three heads, with dedicated targeted exercises) which i found comfortable and didn't feel like my arm would dislocate doing. I started with light weight side delt raises not to failure, front raises, and leaning over rear delt raises. After months I moved onto leaning cable raises, kneeling face pulls with cables, and overhead barbell presses. I worked that for a very long time.
I took BPC and TB at higher dosages, and I cycled gear. Late 30s I did a bulk to try and expedite my muscle growth for my shoulders and found 500mg of test per week was enough. Tren, just skip it at our age, NPP does what we need and has joint lubrication affects. Also, I ran Primobolan 600mg per week for the androgenic affects and anti-estrogen affects.
Each person is different but what ultimately helped me with my rotator cuff was two things (regardless how you get there)
1. Learn how your arm and shoulder stay connected, and what muscles keep them pulled together.
2. Build all of those muscles, and dedicate exercises too them.
Now that I have those muscles, I went from my arm randomly falling out of socket during sex to my arm cant be pulled out of socket unless I al dragging a car speeding the other way.
And lastly it took time. Sadly no amount of anything will make it heal overnight (I sure wish lol) but just 1 year dedicated to building the muscles that hold your arm in place is all I needed.
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Good one in the collagen as well, so many people underestimate how much would be effective, I also always liked higher amounts.