18 Year old Non Competitive Stack

[Bearsy]

Age: 18
Height: 180 cm
Starting Weight: 65 Kg
Cycle goal: Bulk
Cycle duration: Forever? Staying on Test and Cycling some Compounds when Health Markers allow it

Start of Cycle, 20.1.2026
350 MG Test Enanthate Weekly Subq for 50 Days (Daily Inj.) (8mm 30g Insulin needles, Yes Test Subq works fine if you dont mind the Lumps)
20mg Oxandrolone split for 50 Days
Tamoxifen 20mg daily (Ive had fresh Gyno even before hopping on)
I ran these 2 Compounds for 50 Days, Oxandrolone to kickstart it, since to feel the Test E it took like 20 Days,
I was very lean to the Start of it so I thought I wont Aromatise that much, I got Bloated like crazy and had some libido Problems so I checked my E2. (Attached Picture)
Well yea my E2 was too damn high, to fix that I decided that after the 50 Days when coming off the Oxandrolone I was gonna Up the Test to 500/Week combindes with Anastrozol 0.5mg EOD, this worked out fine and my E2, Libido etc. is completely fine now. (Side note: When deciding to use an AI stick to Exemestane since u wont have an E2 Rebound effect)
Ive ran the 500 for about 2 Months now and added in 50MG Trenbolone Acetate Weekly (Subq daily Inj.) about 2 Weeks Ago.
Mentally since fixing my E2 I feel like both Compounds have an positive Effect on it as long as you can manage sleeping on Tren (I just take 200mg 5-HTP and 2 MG Melatonin before Sleep)
My Libido is very good and Ive got a lot more energy in the Day.
Gym Progress wise im now weighing 74 KG while Ive only gained about 1-2% of Body Fat
My Lifts have Increased about 30-40% in Strength up until now
I will keep u Updated on Bloods etc.
Next Plan is to Run Anadrol for as long as my liver markers Allow it

 

[Donvitosharkone]

Age: 18
Height: 180 cm
Starting Weight: 65 Kg
Cycle goal: Bulk
Cycle duration: Forever? Staying on Test and Cycling some Compounds when Health Markers allow it

Start of Cycle, 20.1.2026
350 MG Test Enanthate Weekly Subq for 50 Days (Daily Inj.) (8mm 30g Insulin needles, Yes Test Subq works fine if you dont mind the Lumps)
20mg Oxandrolone split for 50 Days
Tamoxifen 20mg daily (Ive had fresh Gyno even before hopping on)
I ran these 2 Compounds for 50 Days, Oxandrolone to kickstart it, since to feel the Test E it took like 20 Days,
I was very lean to the Start of it so I thought I wont Aromatise that much, I got Bloated like crazy and had some libido Problems so I checked my E2. (Attached Picture)View attachment 4062
Well yea my E2 was too damn high, to fix that I decided that after the 50 Days when coming off the Oxandrolone I was gonna Up the Test to 500/Week combindes with Anastrozol 0.5mg EOD, this worked out fine and my E2, Libido etc. is completely fine now. (Side note: When deciding to use an AI stick to Exemestane since u wont have an E2 Rebound effect)
Ive ran the 500 for about 2 Months now and added in 50MG Trenbolone Acetate Weekly (Subq daily Inj.) about 2 Weeks Ago.
Mentally since fixing my E2 I feel like both Compounds have an positive Effect on it as long as you can manage sleeping on Tren (I just take 200mg 5-HTP and 2 MG Melatonin before Sleep)
My Libido is very good and Ive got a lot more energy in the Day.
Gym Progress wise im now weighing 74 KG while Ive only gained about 1-2% of Body Fat
My Lifts have Increased about 30-40% in Strength up until now
I will keep u Updated on Bloods etc.
Next Plan is to Run Anadrol for as long as my liver markers Allow it

Ok…

You’re 18, started at 65 kg, and you’re already running Test, Anavar, AI, and now adding Tren… planning Anadrol next and “staying on forever”.

That’s not a plan, that’s rushing everything at once.

First, the progress you’ve made (65 → 74 kg) is good, but at your age and starting point, you would have grown fast without all this. You didn’t need half of what you’re using to get that result.

Second, your issues already show the problem:
high E2
libido swings
bloating
needing AI
now adding more compounds

That’s what happens when you stack too early without a base.

You don’t need Tren at 18. You don’t need Anadrol. You don’t need to “stay on forever”.

What you need is:
food
training
time
consistency

If I were guiding you, I’d simplify immediately:
drop everything except a basic test dose or even come off completely
stabilize hormones
learn how your body responds without chasing fixes

Right now you’re solving problems created by your own stack.

Also, think long term:
you’re shutting down your natural production at 18
you’re committing to dependency before even building your natural base

That’s a big decision, not just a cycle.

You’ve got good genetics if you’ve gained like that already. Don’t waste it by trying to shortcut everything.

Slow it down. Build properly. You’ll go much further.

Shark

 

[Bearsy]

Ok…

You’re 18, started at 65 kg, and you’re already running Test, Anavar, AI, and now adding Tren… planning Anadrol next and “staying on forever”.

That’s not a plan, that’s rushing everything at once.

First, the progress you’ve made (65 → 74 kg) is good, but at your age and starting point, you would have grown fast without all this. You didn’t need half of what you’re using to get that result.

Second, your issues already show the problem:

libido swings
bloating
needing AI
high E2
now adding more compounds

That’s what happens when you stack too early without a base.

You don’t need Tren at 18. You don’t need Anadrol. You don’t need to “stay on forever”.

What you need is:
food
training
time
consistency

If I were guiding you, I’d simplify immediately:
drop everything except a basic test dose or even come off completely
stabilize hormones
learn how your body responds without chasing fixes

Right now you’re solving problems created by your own stack.

Also, think long term:
you’re shutting down your natural production at 18
you’re committing to dependency before even building your natural base

That’s a big decision, not just a cycle.

You’ve got good genetics if you’ve gained like that already. Don’t waste it by trying to shortcut everything.

Slow it down. Build properly. You’ll go much further.

Shark

Gotta disagree with you on some points, Starting weight etc. doesnt really matter that much, I was very Lean (good Insulin sensitivity and not much fat to aromatise) and was training for about 9 Months already. The issues (libido, bloating etc.) ive pretty much fixed, only problem with that is using an AI instead of for example Primo or Boldenone, the issues ive had at the beginning were mainly due to my genetics when it comes to aromatisation. The thing with staying on forever, my Test levels before hopping on were decent tho I feel a lot better with stable levels. I also think if you decide to use gear its stupid to go completely off Testosterone since thats worse for ur body/mental wellness than atleast staying on TRT. Yes I dont need Tren, tho besides Muscle Building im also aiming for Mental wellness which is noticeable for me even on this low Dosage. My Hormone levels are now stable (I will get new Bloods in the next Weeks). My Diet etc. is also very much healthy. Incase of health markers being too off I will ofcourse try to help it either by Stack design or Meds without much sides.

 

[Donvitosharkone]

Gotta disagree with you on some points, Starting weight etc. doesnt really matter that much, I was very Lean (good Insulin sensitivity and not much fat to aromatise) and was training for about 9 Months already. The issues (libido, bloating etc.) ive pretty much fixed, only problem with that is using an AI instead of for example Primo or Boldenone, the issues ive had at the beginning were mainly due to my genetics when it comes to aromatisation. The thing with staying on forever, my Test levels before hopping on were decent tho I feel a lot better with stable levels. I also think if you decide to use gear its stupid to go completely off Testosterone since thats worse for ur body/mental wellness than atleast staying on TRT. Yes I dont need Tren, tho besides Muscle Building im also aiming for Mental wellness which is noticeable for me even on this low Dosage. My Hormone levels are now stable (I will get new Bloods in the next Weeks). My Diet etc. is also very much healthy. Incase of health markers being too off I will ofcourse try to help it either by Stack design or Meds without much sides.

I’m going to be very clear with you, not to attack you (please don’t take me wrong), but because this is exactly the moment where people either build something long term… or burn themselves early.

You’re intelligent and you’re thinking, but you’re justifying decisions that are not grounded in physiology or long-term reality.

Let’s go point by point:

“Starting weight doesn’t matter”

It matters a lot…. A LOT

65 kg at 180 cm is underdeveloped, That means you had a massive natural runway (as minimum 15kg before reaching your height standard weight cap). At that stage, almost any structured training and food would have given you fast gains for years. Using drugs there doesn’t make you “optimize”, it just masks how little base you actually built.

Top guys don’t jump on at 65 kg. They build first because that base determines how far you can go later.

“I was lean so low aromatization”

Being lean helps, but it doesn’t override dose.

350–500 mg test is still supraphysiological. You will aromatize. The bloating and libido issues weren’t “genetics”, they were expected from the dose you chose combined with no proper control at the start.

Calling that genetics is just avoiding responsibility for the setup.

“I fixed it with AI”

You didn’t fix it, you managed the side effect with ANOTHER drug.

Now you depend on an AI to feel normal. That’s not stability, that’s a controlled imbalance.

And your comment about using Primo/Boldenone instead of AI… those are not estrogen management tools, they are additional compounds with their own risks. Swapping an AI for more gear is not a smarter solution.

“Staying on is better than coming off”

This is where you’re making a HUGE leap.

TRT is for people who medically need it. You are 18.

You didn’t “optimize your levels”, you SHUT DOWN your natural production before even fully developing it. Saying you feel better on stable levels is normal… of course you feel good when you’re supraphysiological. That doesn’t mean it’s the right long-term decision.

You’re confusing feeling good now with being healthy long term.

“Mental wellness from Tren”

This is a very dangerous way to frame it.

Tren can feel good for some people short term, focus, drive, intensity. But it’s also one of the most neuroactive compounds out there. The same compound that gives you that “boost” is the one that can wreck sleep, mood stability, anxiety, and long-term CNS balance.

Using Tren for “mental wellness” at 18 is not optimization, it’s dependency risk.

“My hormones are stable”

They are NOT stable. They are externally controlled.

Stable would mean your body regulates itself. Right now, everything is coming from outside, test, AI, soon more compounds. That’s not stability, that’s management.

And two weeks of “feeling fine” doesn’t equal stability. Lipids, hematocrit, cardiovascular strain, neurological load… those don’t show up immediately in how you feel.

“I’ll fix markers with meds or stack design”

This is THE CLASSIC trap.

Instead of reducing load, you’re planning to stack solutions on top of problems. More drugs to fix drug side effects. That spiral is exactly how people end up needing more and more just to feel “normal”.

That’s not control, that’s escalation.

Now the reality, without sugarcoating:

You’ve made good progress. You respond well. That’s a good sign.

But you’re trying to run before you can walk.

At 18, your advantage is time and natural response. If you build properly now, you could reach a level most people never will.

If you keep going like this, constantly adding, justifying, fixing… you’ll plateau early and rely more and more on compounds just to maintain.

A real high-level approach is the opposite of what you’re doing:
- simplify
- build base
- use the minimum effective input
- only add when you actually need it

Right now, you’re using advanced tools to solve beginner problems.

You don’t need more compounds. You need more time under the basics.

If you take one thing from this, it’s this:

Just because something “works” short term doesn’t mean it’s the right move long term.

Shark