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Push Day Update

Switched Push day to the same ultra-low volume, true failure setup yesterday after my rest day, to keep managing fatigue and protect joint health. Dropped flat heavy barbell bench entirely, the rotator cuff stress and high systemic strain weren't making sense with current recovery levels. Reward/risk ratio are also not the bests with flat barbell bench

Workout Breakdown:

Incline barbell : 2 sets to absolute failure (100x6 then 90x8) + partials on final set
Incline Machine Chest Press (Neutral Grip): 2 heavy working sets to failure
Standing Cable Flyes: 1 set to failure
Seated DB Lateral Raises: 2 sets to failure + partials
Overhead Cable Triceps Extension: 2 sets to failure

Total: 9 working sets. (Kinda short 🤣)

Not the best chest density and side delt pump, though my shoulders didn't feel beat up at all like they usually do wich could be a great sign for recovery purposds.
Walking out after 40 minutes felt completely strange compared to my standard 16–20 working sets, and my nervous system didn't feel fried. Mental adjustment is the hardest part here, as it feels like I left work on the table.
 
Arm Day Update

Applied the ultra-low volume shift to dedicated Arm day this morning. Normally this session is packed with endless supersets, drop sets, and volume to chase a pump, but kept it strictly capped at absolute failure to test actual fatigue reduction and recovery output.

Workout Breakdown:

Barbell Preacher Curl: 2 sets to absolute failure + forced partials
Bayesian Cable Curl: 2 sets to failure per side
EZ-Bar Skullcrushers: 2 heavy working sets to failure
Triceps Rope Pushdown: 2 sets to failure + partials at the bottom
Heavy DB Hammer Curls: 1 set to absolute failure
Total: 9 working sets.

Arm pump was not as extremely sharp and localized, my elbows did feel completely pain-free for once. Biceps and triceps were twitching after, but systemic fatigue was basically zero. Again, it feels weird wrapping up an arm session in under 35 minutes when I'm used to slamming 18+ sets until complete exhaustion, but strength on each set was maxed out.

Next step: Will run this low-volume approach through the second rotation next week to see if logbook numbers actually jump from the lower fatigue debt.
 
Leg Day Update

Switched Leg day to the ultra-low volume, true failure setup today to cap systemic fatigue. Dropped heavy barbell back squats entirely, the massive spinal loading and total-body exhaustion just weren't worth the recovery debt with current stress levels.

Workout Breakdown:

* Leg Press: 2 heavy working sets to absolute failure + partials on final set
* Seated Leg Curl: 2 sets to failure + partials at full stretch
* Romanian Deadlift (Dumbbell): 2 sets to failure
* Leg Extension: 2 sets to failure
* Standing Calf Raises: 1 set to absolute failure
Total: 9 working sets.

Quads and hamstrings were completely torched locally, but I didn't have that typical post-leg day brain fog or feeling of total physical drain. Walking out of the gym in under 45 minutes felt weird compared to my usual 16–20 sets where I can barely make it to the car/upstairs 🤣

Next step: Completing the remaining low-volume experiment and reviewing logbook progress across all sessions to see if recovery and strength gains actuall
y improve.
 
Push Day Update #2

Second Push session running this ultra-low volume, true failure setup. Energy levels and sleep have improved slightly, so I came into this session with zero residual fatigue from the back and leg days. Still keeping flat barbell bench completely out of the rotation :/

Workout Breakdown:

High Incline DB Press: 2 sets to absolute failure (40kg x 7, then 36kg x 9) + partials on final set
Chest-Focused Dip Machine : 2 heavy working sets to failure
Low-to-High Cable Flyes: 1 set to failure
Lean-Away Cable Lateral Raises: 2 sets to failure + partials
Single-Arm Triceps Cable Pushdown: 2 sets to failure

Total: 9 working sets. (Finished in under 35 mins 💀)

Sensations & Feedback:

Chest recruitment felt much cleaner today compared to the first Push session. CNS fatigue wasn't carrying over from previous days

Mental Take & Next Steps:

The mental adjustment of leaving the gym while still feeling physically energized is starting to get easier now that I'm seeing performance hold up on top sets. Neural drive was definitely higher today. Running the second arm rotation next to see if strength follows the same trend
 
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Arm Day Update #2

Second arm session running the ultra-low volume protocol. Kept the intensity locked strictly at true failure while keeping total sets capped, continuing to prioritize max mechanical tension over high-volume pump chasing.

Workout Breakdown:

* Incline Dumbbell Curl: 2 sets to absolute failure + partials
* Dual Cable Biceps Curl: 2 sets to failure
* Katana Cable Triceps Extension: 2 heavy working sets to failure
* Single-Arm Cable Pushdown: 2 sets to failure + partials at the bottom
* Cross-Body DB Hammer Curl: 1 set to absolute failure
Total: 9 working sets.

local fatigue on both biceps and triceps with zero elbow issues or joint stress. Density held up great, and wrapping up in 35 minutes without the usual joint ache or systemic drain confirms the lower fatigue debt is working.
Mindset is still adjusting to stopping at 9 sets when the effort level on every single set is maxed.

Next step: Continuing to log performance metrics across the upcoming workouts to monitor progressive overload on the low-vol
ume setup
 
Leg Day Update #2

Second leg session (from yesterday but i didnt have time to log it) running the ultra-low volume protocol. Kept intensity locked strictly at true failure while keeping volume capped, sticking to heavy machine work to maximize quad/ham tension without loading up the spine or knees.

Workout Breakdown:

* Hack Squat: 2 heavy working sets to absolute failure (185x6 then 165x8) + partials on final set
* Lying Leg Curl: 2 sets to failure + partials at full stretch
* Leg Press: 2 sets to failure
* Leg Extension: 2 sets to failure + partials
* Standing Calf Raises: 1 set to absolute failure
Total: 9 working sets.

Quads and hamstrings were torched locally, but knees and lower back felt completely untouched with zero systemic fatigue or brain fog afterward. Out the door in under 40 minutes, and recovery between sets stayed noticeably higher throughout the session.
I can now easily walk to my car post workout 🤣

Next step: Comparing weights and reps directly against the first rotation baseline to confirm if lower volume translates into logbook pr
ogression.
 
Leg Day Update #2

Second leg session (from yesterday but i didnt have time to log it) running the ultra-low volume protocol. Kept intensity locked strictly at true failure while keeping volume capped, sticking to heavy machine work to maximize quad/ham tension without loading up the spine or knees.

Workout Breakdown:

* Hack Squat: 2 heavy working sets to absolute failure (185x6 then 165x8) + partials on final set
* Lying Leg Curl: 2 sets to failure + partials at full stretch
* Leg Press: 2 sets to failure
* Leg Extension: 2 sets to failure + partials
* Standing Calf Raises: 1 set to absolute failure
Total: 9 working sets.

Quads and hamstrings were torched locally, but knees and lower back felt completely untouched with zero systemic fatigue or brain fog afterward. Out the door in under 40 minutes, and recovery between sets stayed noticeably higher throughout the session.
I can now easily walk to my car post workout 🤣

Next step: Comparing weights and reps directly against the first rotation baseline to confirm if lower volume translates into logbook pr
ogression.
SUUULLLKKKK Bro!! first of all, I owe you an apology because I somehow overlooked this log update!! Going through it properly now, this is one of those logs that actually deserves attention because you’re documenting the process, not just listing compounds and numbers.

Honestly, What I like most is that you’re willing to change course when recovery tells you to. You started with the classic “more is more” mentality, 7 days, a lot of sets, everything pushed hard, and then you actually reacted to what your body was telling you. Dropping volume, removing movements with a poor fatigue-to-stimulus ratio and watching performance instead of ego is a very good sign.

At this point, I’d really like to see current front, side and back pictures, ideally relaxed and under the same lighting. You’re up several kilos from a very lean starting point, and photos would tell us much more than scale weight about whether that gain is going where you want it to.

The good part is obvious: your recovery seems better, joints are happier, systemic fatigue is lower and your second rotation already looked cleaner than the first. That’s exactly what you want to see when you reduce volume. The fact that you’re walking out of the gym feeling energized instead of destroyed is not a problem. It may actually be the lesson here.

I’d also like to see a couple of comparison shots from week 1 versus now, especially chest, delts, back and legs. You mention fuller muscle bellies and better density, so it would be useful to see whether that visual change matches the performance data.

The only thing I would caution against is going from one extreme to the other. You may not have discovered that “9 sets is perfect”. You may simply have discovered that 17 to 20 sets to failure with no rest days was more fatigue than you could productively use. That’s a big difference.

Same with failure. If every set is true failure plus partials, forced reps or drop work, you’re still creating a lot of fatigue inside those 9 sets. Low volume only works if the quality is high and recovery improves, not if you turn every set into a small war.

If possible, post leg pictures as well, not just upper body. You’re changing your leg training quite a lot, removing back squats, using hack squats, leg press and machines, and that’s exactly where photos can show whether the lower-fatigue approach is still giving you enough stimulus.

On the cycle side, I would keep the same logic. You’re already in a strong growth environment. I wouldn’t automatically increase doses because the calendar says “Phase 2”. If bodyweight, strength and measurements are still moving and your BP, glucose and bloodwork remain controlled, then the current setup is still earning its place.

And one more thing: don’t chase 92 to 95 kg just because it’s written in the plan. Starting at 80 kg and very lean means the first kilos will include glycogen, water and restored fullness. Judge the phase by how you look, how you perform and how much quality tissue you’re actually adding.

So if you can, give us one proper set of progress photos now, then repeat them every 3 to 4 weeks under the same conditions. That would make this log much more valuable, because we’d be able to connect the training changes, the scale and the visual result instead of guessing.

Overall, this is a very good log and the biggest positive is that you’re learning to manage recovery instead of simply trying to survive your own program. Keep the low-volume experiment long enough to get real data, let the logbook tell you if it’s working, and don’t add work just because a 35-minute session feels too short.

The goal is not to leave the gym destroyed. The goal is to come back stronger.

Keep updating this one, brother. And seriously, get those pictures up.

They would add a lot to the discussion!!

Shark
 
Thanks @Donvitosharkone for taking the time to write such a detailed breakdown, seriously, your feedback on the training side of things was a massive eye-opener for me.

You hit the nail on the head regarding not swinging from one extreme to another. I realized I was confusing "recovering better from lower volume" with "9 sets is universally optimal."

As for the progress photos, I know I dropped a couple of upper body shots earlier in the log (and other threads but they are older photos), and I’ve decided to stop uploading physique pictures entirely. After realizing how easily background details and distinct body marks can be recognized, I had to tighten up my privacy for personal/pro reasons.
Going forward, I'm tracking everything strictly through logbook progression, skinfold testing, limb/waist measurements, and morning scale trends and photos (that i rather would keep for myself)

your reply showed me that I clearly don't know everything and still have a lot of blind spots on the training side of things (and probably on the PEDs side of things too 🤣).
Having multiple points of view and an objective third party look at the data is huge. Thanks to you and some other conversations I've had, I am planning to hire an online coach soon to oversee the training programming and protocol adjustments so I can make sure I progress as efficiently as possible.

On that note, I wanted to ask you:

Have you ever worked with a coach who specializes in both high-level training and PED programming?
If you have, how was your experience with them, and how did you go about searching for and vetting someone who actually knows what they’re doing?
 
Thanks @Donvitosharkone for taking the time to write such a detailed breakdown, seriously, your feedback on the training side of things was a massive eye-opener for me.

You hit the nail on the head regarding not swinging from one extreme to another. I realized I was confusing "recovering better from lower volume" with "9 sets is universally optimal."

As for the progress photos, I know I dropped a couple of upper body shots earlier in the log (and other threads but they are older photos), and I’ve decided to stop uploading physique pictures entirely. After realizing how easily background details and distinct body marks can be recognized, I had to tighten up my privacy for personal/pro reasons.
Going forward, I'm tracking everything strictly through logbook progression, skinfold testing, limb/waist measurements, and morning scale trends and photos (that i rather would keep for myself)

your reply showed me that I clearly don't know everything and still have a lot of blind spots on the training side of things (and probably on the PEDs side of things too 🤣).
Having multiple points of view and an objective third party look at the data is huge. Thanks to you and some other conversations I've had, I am planning to hire an online coach soon to oversee the training programming and protocol adjustments so I can make sure I progress as efficiently as possible.

On that note, I wanted to ask you:

Have you ever worked with a coach who specializes in both high-level training and PED programming?
If you have, how was your experience with them, and how did you go about searching for and vetting someone who actually knows what they’re doing?
Sulk!

Brother, first of all, I completely respect the decision on the pictures. Privacy beats forum content every single time, especially when professional consequences exist. And frankly, the fact that you’re willing to change your mind when new information appears tells me more about your potential than another progress picture ever could.

Regarding the coach: yes, I think you’re reaching the point where a genuinely good one could be extremely valuable. Not because you lack knowledge, but because knowledge and objectivity are two completely different things. The more invested you become in your own program, the harder it becomes to coach yourself without bias.

When vetting someone, I wouldn’t be impressed by how complicated their cycles look or how many champions appear on Instagram. I’d look for something much rarer: someone who can explain why they are not changing something. A great coach should be comfortable saying, “You’re progressing, recovery is good, health markers are acceptable, so we’re doing nothing.”

I’d also want them to understand training, nutrition, recovery and PEDs as one system, rather than four separate spreadsheets. If every plateau gets answered with more food, more volume or more drugs, you’re not paying for coaching, you’re paying someone to turn knobs.

Ask prospective coaches how they make decisions, what data they require, how they manage health markers, what makes them reduce rather than increase a protocol, and what they do when performance and bloodwork tell conflicting stories. Their answers will tell you far more than their client list.

And one final thought: don’t hire someone to surrender your thinking. Hire someone to CHALLENGE it. The best outcome isn’t becoming dependent on a coach. It’s spending a few years with someone good enough that eventually you understand your own body at a completely different level.

You’re already doing the most important part correctly: questioning your own assumptions.

Keep that mentality and you’ll progress much further than someone who simply knows more compounds.

Shark
 
@Donvitosharkone Appreciate the answer brah 💪

Yeah, privacy > forum clout every single time. Not worth risking real-life stuff just to post pics online.

You're right, It’s way too easy to get tunnel vision on your own blast and default to "more carbs, more gear" the second progress slows down. Finding a coach who actually manages health markers and knows when not to touch the protocol is rare, most of these IG guys are just mindless knob-turners who throw more compounds at every plateau.

Do you have experience with one/know someone who has hired a coach and was satisfied with what it tought and brought them?

Definitely keeping those vetting questions in mind before I pull the trigger on anyone. Appreciate the insight 🤝
 
Pull Day #2

***Posting this few days after performing the WO***

almost at the end of week 1 on this ultra-low volume setup.
Coming into the second pull session of the week, I was curious to see if performance would hold up or if the fatigue from earlier sessions would stack. The answer was immediate: strength was up across the board.

Quick Breakdown:
Neutral Lat Pulldown: 85kg x 7
Chest-Supported Row: 60kg x 8
High Cable Row: 1 set to failure
Reverse Pec Deck: 2 sets to failure
Incline DB Curls: 2 sets to failure
Total: 9 working sets.

What stands out nearing the end of this first full cycle is the total lack of systemic fatigue. Usually by day 5 or 6 of a heavy week, fatigue is quiet present. Today, my lats were completely engorged, but my lower back and CNS feel completely fresh.
 
Week 1 of ultra-low volume fully wrapped up.

***Posting this few days later after taking some rest***

After a solid week of logging this setup, that initial mental mindgame of "leaving work on the table" is finally starting to fade (even tho its still kinda difficult 🤣)

The performance metrics are making it impossible to argue with the results. When you only have 2 true working sets per exercise, you naturally treat every single rep like a life-or-death battle. Progression on the log has been consistent across the board:
- Incline Barbell jumped from 100x6 to 102.5x7
- Lat Pulldowns felt completely locked in with zero elbow or lower back fatigue.

Numbers are moving up, recovery is dialed, and I'm sticking strictly to this framework. On
to week 2. With the same goal : build some size and minimize fatigue
 
Push Day — Week 2 start.

***Posting this few days after performing the WO***

Week 2 on this ultra-low volume setup and the logbook is moving up nicely. No more fighting the urge to add junk volume, just pure focus on beating last week's numbers

Progression:
Incline BB: 102.5kg x 6 (up from 100x6)
Machine Chest Press: 2 sets to failure (+1 rep)
Cable Flyes: 1 set
DB Lateral Raises: 2 sets
Cable Tri Ext: 2 sets and partial
Total: 9 sets.

Pressing felt insanely stable today. Zero shoulder pain, no joint aches, and peak chest tension with zero pacing. In and out in 45 mins, CNS fresh.
Im not zure yet but thinking of doing this low volum for at least a short 6weeks phase to see then and assess the results in terms of size gain (pumps are good but real gains would be better 🤣)
 
Arm Day — Week 2.

***Posting this few days after performing the WO***

While Jeff Nippard and the science-based crowd are out here running 20-set volume spreadsheets while leaving 3 reps in the tank, 2 sets to absolute death is torching my arms way better.

Logbook Progression (Week 2):
Incline DB Curls: 22kg x 8
Preacher Curl: 2 heavy sets to absolute failure
JM Press: 80kg x 7 to failure
Overhead Cable Ext: 2 sets + 3 partials
Total: 8 working sets.

Elbows feel 100% fresh with zero tendonitis, and arms are completely pumped. In and out in 45 minutes with a crazy pump.
True intensity beats 20 sets of padded volume every single time
Still not sure about the 6 weeks phase thing but it keep growing on me ngl 🤣 i guess i'll decide in the near future
 
Pull Day — Week 2.

***Posting yesterda's workout***

Back on pull for week 2. Main goal was strictly beating last week's logbook metrics while keeping execution clean.
Logbook Progression:
Neutral Lat Pulldown: 87.5kg x7 partial
Chest-Supported T-Bar: 65kg x 7 to failure
Single-Arm High Cable Row: 1 set to death
Reverse Pec Deck: 2 sets + partials
Incline DB Curls: 22kg x 7
Total: 9 working sets.

Need to perform this a feew more weeks to see if progress is real or if its only improved pumps and recovery but i really started to like this approach.

Took some resdays this week to enjoy vacation and improve even more recovery, this gave me plenty of time to make the decision : i will be running this shoet 6 weeks phase, if im content with the results rhen probably gonna continue, if not then i'll take it as some good learning experience
 
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